A Social Conservative Has A ‘Come To Jesus’ Chat
April 14, 2008 · Print This Article
From “The Huckabee Alliance” Blog
http://huckabeealliance.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/advice-for-john-mccain/#comment-133
Advice for John McCain
If Arizona Senator John McCain wants to win the White House come November he needs to sit up and take heed of what some people have been saying. There is an important group of voters that he needs to befriend and assure that he will not throw them under the bus. Social Conservatives. He has all but ignored us, especially here in Iowa where he skipped the Iowa Caucuses. This has not endeared him to social conservatives across the country; instead it has alienated many of us. He has continually ignored us and thumbed his nose at our beliefs. This is not the way to win the White House this November. The only reason that he has ratings anywhere close to the two Democrats is because they seem to be intent on destroying not only each other but their party as well.
Without the millions of social conservatives across this country Senator McCain does not stand a chance come November. He is known as being soft on illegal immigrants; he sure doesn’t seem to have any moral values. These two issues do not make him the ideal candidate for President from our point of view. Because of this it would make sense for McCain to choose a socially conservative running mate. And yet he has still not chosen one at this time. Many social conservatives are worried that he would choose Rudy or Romney for a running mate. It would be a mistake of catastrophic proportions for him to do this as it would ensure that his campaign would fall in flames.
Social conservatives are the ones that go out to campaign for candidates, how else could former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee defeat Mitt Romney in Iowa, even though Huckabee was outspent by an enormous amount. Think about what McCain could do with that kind of grassroots support, he could handily defeat the Democrats. However this will not happen if he chooses a running mate that is anything other than socially conservative. The thing that McCain needs to realize is that we are not stupid, we know how to effectively use the internet to research his running mate’s political background. This means that he can claim anything that he wants, but we will be able to locate the truth.
The ‘Come To Jesus’ Response
While you are not alone, by any means, with your rightful anger towards and serious concern about McCain, his liberal policies and his choice of running mate, lets really explore how Juan rose to the level of our nominee by default in a Come To Jesus chat of our very own, right here, right now;
Pray tell us, the other two legs of the conservative party stool, exactly why you broke away, as a group, by not only demanding your intentionally limited priorities came first, foremost and exclusively but also, with the added nerve to actually dictate how they must be accomplished through Constitutional Amendments?
You correctly point to the strength you have in numbers so you should also realize that by The Huckster’s clear and resounding defeat that you can not elect a candidate who was only capable of pandering to your exclusive issues. In other words, you intentionally left your friends behind in completely ignoring the fact that there are MANY issues critical to conservative principles and values wherein he possesses absolutely none of them.
You offer you are “not stupid” and “know how to research on the net” then, why didn’t you all know that seeking Constitutional Amendments are;
1) WRONG to attempt according to the instructions of our founding fathers who specifically offered ‘Federalism’ as the means for us to limit bad science and bad law which is inevitable to crop up on occasion in a democracy straying from a republic through judicial activism and/or over-reaching legislators.
Treat the cause, never the symptom. Appoint only strict constructionist judges who will interpret the law but, will never make new law according to our Separation of Powers which protects democracy and forestalls tyranny. Stick to the remedies provided by the men who designed the government or there will be ‘unforeseen’ and tragically unwanted ramifications.
2) IMPOSSIBLE to obtain the supermajority vote required evidenced by our previously wrongheaded attempt to pass a pro-life amendment at the time we had the largest majority in Congress we’ve ever enjoyed. The NRLC saw this was the truth and gave their full support to the candidate who showed them that accomplishing goals in the federal government is an incremental endeavor, inthat they must be gained a little at a time with the right plan or it will blow up in our faces wherein if we’re very lucky will only set us back and not into total chaos.
Therefore, banging our heads against the wall in futility with religious as well as other GOP “leaders”, such as James Dobson and Paul Weyrich, publicly dictating we will reverse or prevent society’s moral decay by demanding candidates platform be based upon quick-fix pipedreams is not remotely close to intelligent nor is it demonstrating we are capable of our own governance.
Further, for social conservatives to support the Huckster who once took his stance with Federalism only to flip that correct position to pander to the uninformed merely for their votes is unconscionably immoral at face value. In so doing and seeing the same type of depravity ( and much worse ) in his past and records, he has vividly demonstrated that he is not worthy of occupying the office of the presidency…nor any other public office.
This all leads us to how we wound up with McCain as our nominee. The following articles continue the explanation of our current situation so, let us now see if you really can be smart and also put the effort out to actually be informed in realizing social conservatives have only to look at themselves for the great amount of the ‘credit’;
The Mike Huckabee Effect http://acandidworld.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/the-mike-huckabee-effect/#comment-188
How the Republican Party Committed National Suicide By JB Williams
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19227.shtml
Who Hijacked the Primaries? by Brett Winterble
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24726
The Death of Conservatism? 43 Mistakes and the GOP’s Dobson’s Choice
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1961546/posts
GOP Leads Astray
http://gopleadsastray.blogspot.com/
Conservative Blackout by Lisa Fabrizio
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12517
Mike “The Huckster” Huckabee
http://mikeyhuckabee.blogspot.com/
Now, if you’ve finished the research, that had to be handed to you after the fact, remind yourself of how angry you are at McCain to merely take a wild guess at how angry your like-minded friends ( that you left behind ) are with you for handing McCain to US!
Two points in response to the “Come to Jesus” author.
1. The Founding Fathers were the authors of the means by which the Constitution can be amended and has been a couple dozen times or so. If they were opposed to its ever being amended, they would not have included the constitutional procedure to do so; in fact, they themselves — using the system they authored — approved the first ten amendments known as the Bill of Rights.
2. You failed to mention which primary candidate you believe social conservatives were obligated to support rather than risk irritating you.
In all fairness RG there isn’t a candidate left that social conservatives can fully support. Once again we are stuck with choosing which candidate will do the least damage to our freedom.
That will probably be McCain but I am less than convinced to this point. That is my opinion, we don’t tell people how to vote, that’s what libs do.
I agree, Brandon.
But the original poster, Winghunter, suggested it is social conservatives’ fault that McCain won the nomination. Since few if any of us supported McCain, Wing must have someone in mind he thinks we were “supposed to” support to avoid McCain’s winning.
Seeing as how he obviously doesn’t consider himself a social conservative, I’m gonna take a wild guess that he thinks we should’ve supported that guy who’s not either (but spent $100 million pretending to be).
I have to hand it to you RG, you’ve got a lot of guts…not much else but, a lot of guts.
Look at the initial post again RG!
Who was the only candidate to correctly oppose pro-life and a marriage protection amendment?…there was only one. Now, who was the only candidate to be fully supported by the NRLC? AGAIN, there was only one. There was also only one candidate who knew what he was doing, how to get it done and who could be trusted 100% of the time on any subject in the highest office of the land….Do you have anymore questions that you should already know OR that I’ve already provided right here on the same page??
I must say, your powers of deduction are exactly what Sir Arthur Doyle had in mind when he created the character, Dr. Watson.
Just as a side note, here, I have a big problem with the “three-legged stool” metaphor for conservatism. I contend that there are four legs on that stool: social, economic, security and federalist (small-government).
Small government is about much more than simply economics, so why is it nearly always grafted onto the economic leg of the stool? It’s about power and the rights of the states and the people. The federal government has only very limited powers granted to it by the Constitution.
Besides, anyone who has ever milked a cow knows that a three-legged stool isn’t the most stable of platforms to sit upon. Lean over too far in any direction, and you’re headed for a fall! Four legs make for a sold base.
Back to topic…
- JP
Agreed JP, there is a big difference. Now that I was serious for a second…
As we worked side by side I saw a lot of people who were more than confused about the difference between conservative and republican so, I honestly don’t think they can understand 3 or 4 types merely because they won’t spend the time to find out. There’s no excuse for them but, they just plainly didn’t learn opting out instead to watch the mainstream media.
Therefore, I’ve thought of a compassionate monicker for them which will be a catch-all for any imbeciles who would like to call themselves conservative, “Pogostick Republicans”.
It’s a perfect fit for them. We know they hopped around aimlessly before by supporting any candidate who called themselves republican regardless of who they actually were where this idea greatly simplifies the whole process for them and they can be their happy simple selves. ;- )